A New Earth

Join Melissa Paluzzi in this episode as she discusses A New Earth

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

All right, Melissa, welcome today. It's good to see you.

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Hi, everybody. Kathy Kelly. Hi. Hi. Well, I have a really interesting topic today. I picked up a book that I've had for a really long time. I might have actually even read it already. It is called Um A New Earth by Eckhart Tolley. Has anybody read A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle? It's been such a long time. Such a long time. But I'm just getting started on it. And what he wants to talk about that I just was so inspired by was this I'll call it dysfunction because he calls it a dysfunction that human beings have with how we identify ourselves as our thoughts. And you know, we in the spiritual lane, we know that that's not true. But a lot of people get stuck in their thoughts. And it is reflected out in what we see in the world right now. And as I go through this, I fully expect some commentary on this topic because we all know that we all have an ego to deal with.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Amen, Melissa. From the back view. From the back room.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Yep. 100%.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

Yeah. And the thing of it is, people don't even realize that there's an awareness behind thought. I, you know, the speculation by the author is that people don't even know that there's something else besides thought. But that really what is going on is we can observe the thoughts from our other perspective, which is our higher self. There's a part of us that's that can just watch it and is aware that the ego is thinking or the brain is thinking. Um but many people, many people become really connected to the thoughts that they have in their head. And all of us do this. We all were this way at some point, I would have to say. Seems reasonable, right? Most of the people aren't observing their thoughts. They are completely identified with them. Now, if I were having a rough moment right now and I was completely identified with the kind of thoughts that like to float through, that can be a very unpleasant experience. And of course, as I was reading through this book, I was, you know, really connecting to dots for how hypnotherapy and spiritual work really helps people get out of the stream of thought. And the ones that we see in hypnosis are the ones that are ready to work through whatever thought stream they've been dealing with for a while, right? They're ready. There's a lot of people out there who aren't ready yet. But there's, you know, we've nar normalized in the modern culture this chronic mental noise. People don't even know there's something beyond it. People need to be stimulated all the time. You know, I don't know. I I teach for a local community college, and if the students have the phone on their desk, if there's a buzz, the phone is looked at. It doesn't matter what is going on in the classroom. There, it's like a Pavlov response. If they've been, if they got a buzz on their phone, they have to look and see what it is. They can't put it away long enough to ignore it or, you know, there's a problem with this. Everything in our society is pretty much wired for us to have this constant stimulation and you know, pinging around. The focus is is um hard to find out there. People are doom scrolling. I mean, I I've doom scrolled. I don't call it that because I don't really enjoy looking at things that make me that want to reinforce my unhappiness. I usually try to find, you know, something to shift whatever thoughts I have going on. But lots of people are doom scrolling and going down the rabbit hole and comparing themselves to everyone else. It's pretty uh scary to me what people are having to deal with out there. Everything that's in our phone, everything that's on our computer is hey, look at me. Uh, and it's creating this feeling of people not being good enough, or you know, in order for them to experience themselves as being enough, they have to have something to fulfill that. And that's the ego's role. That's the ego's role. But we've really just normalized internal overwhelm. That's what people are dealing with. I can't sit and quiet comfortably, stillness doesn't feel comfortable or right to them. It can feel threatening and the nervous system is always activated. So there's a lot of things happening out there in the world to people who don't know that there can be something different than their thoughts. This is all linked to anxiety, mental looping, compulsive thinking. Uh, I know when I have a problem come up, let's say I've just had a difficult interaction with someone, I know that my thoughts will get stuck in the loop. And I have to really try hard to separate myself from those thoughts because it's not a fun experience. And it doesn't take long after the mental looping for my body to start getting involved. I might start having heart palpitations, or I'll probably give myself a migraine. That's a pretty typical experience when I have that kind of upset. So, you know, but we also know that ego isn't a bad thing. Our ego keeps us alive. It um, you know, it's developed as a survival structure for us. We need it, it's not evil or anything like that. It's not something we want to destroy. And I do hear that a lot from people in my spirituality work that they want to overcome their ego or they want to, you know, they want to banish it. And it just isn't gonna work. You you can't. It's part of the system. So, you know, the problem really is that they're unconsciously identifying with it and not being present. So, what we do in general is mistake our thoughts, our roles, our wounds, our achievements, and our labels for our identity. And the interesting thing that um art tolly talked about in the book was what happens to children, you know, when your babies, your parents are calling you by your name. And then even some kids for a period of time will refer to themselves in the third person until they finally get the I concept. But by that time, you know, they understand that when someone calls their name, that is who they are, and then they link this is who I am, this is who I am, is my name. And that starts the story. And then the next part of the story is the child has a belonging that belongs to them. That also gets added into their identity. So we can probably relate to the experience of a child getting their toy taken away. They're not too happy about that. That is mine, right? That is the second word they learn, besides no, is mine, and that is all enforcing to the ego. It usually is mine, mine, mine, mine, mine. Yes, yes, lots and lots of minds. So it's just it starts out that way because of just how we are, you know, and most of the time the sentences that start with the word I for a person who's not aware of themselves yet as a spiritual being is probably going to be from the ego. And we can tell when we're in conversation those those starter sentences, and then you know you have the spiritual sentence, I am, which is something entirely different, differ very different kind of energies. But he brought up the author brought up Dick Hart, who said, I think, therefore I am, which uh is wrong. Or not the one, not the direct the uh direction we would like to go if we choose to be enlightened. Um, but that is usually the autopilot for most people. I think, therefore, I am, and they're just not aware at all that there is a whole nother narrative that can be had, another awareness that can be had. What if the awareness observing the thought is closer to who you are than the thoughts themselves? And we know this from our coaching. We are not our thoughts. We're not. And when we're present, we have the ability to observe our thoughts, be detached from those thoughts. We can notice the reactions that we have and create space for that so that we don't react in a way that we would perpetuate what's already been happening. So the good thing that we know as hypnotherapists is that human beings are programmable. This can be changed. Of course, they have to have the desire for change. Um, but the repetition in hypnosis creates new conditioning and they can actually be discover their true identity underneath all of the noise. Haven't we all had clients like this that just you know, I know for myself when new clients come, they're like, oh, I don't know if you're gonna be able to hypnotize me. My mind is too busy. They find they do, and I say it's never happened. Everyone has been hypnotized. It's all good. So we know from hypnosis a thought repeated often enough can start to feel like the truth. So we know it can be changed. Or the flip side of that, just because a thought is familiar doesn't make it true. Say that one again, Melissa. Just because a thought is familiar doesn't make it true.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

There's power in that sense.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Yes. Yeah. That's most of the conditioning that we carry.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

And usually it's uncomfortably familiar. That's how you know it's untrue.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah, because what does it do? It usually tightens up the body, it doesn't allow for full expression. Um yeah, we know. Even in what I study, human design, human design explores the conditioning that goes along with this. There can be um energy that contributes to this problem in place. And also people can be unaware that they're absorbing energy from other people as well, which can contribute to this overthinking. I don't know if I mentioned it in one of our podcasts, but I have something that's called an open head center and it causes a lot of pressure and for me to have lots of thoughts all the time. That's part of my energetic makeup. So I have to be aware of what the thought stream is and making sure that I'm thinking when I am thinking on purpose that I'm thinking about things that I choose to think about, because that's part of my design to pick up other people's things. So that can be a challenge for me to narrow down my thoughts.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

I've noticed lately that I'm doing something I haven't done for years. I used to be the queen of what if, and I would catastrophize. I was really good at it. And I notice I've been doing that lately, and I think, ah, wait a minute. I catch myself and I think, oh, and I label it. And as soon as I label it, and then I I'm curious about why I would do that after all these years, and then I can set it aside.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

That's interesting, Catherine. It's coming up to be corrected, I guess, or to be healed, to be reprogrammed.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Yeah.

unknown 13:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

I find that too, so many things in my life, like, oh man, I thought I did that. Didn't I heal that? That's coming around again.

unknown 13:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

Because it's been years. I did this back in, oh gosh, 35 years ago. And I really thought it was well behind me. And lately it's just like, what? No, don't no, don't do that.

unknown 14:02

Don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Right. You know, there's I've seen memes out there. I don't know if I'll get it exactly right because that's how my brain works. But it's basically if you can awhalize anything, you can absolutely go the other direction and put and you know, fall on the what if what if the good things happen? Right. Absolutely we can do that. But I do think that the way we've been taught, we just really need to make sure there's parts of us that really need to make sure that we're safe all the time. You know, and another human design aspect here is I'm supposed to be living as I learning as I live. So I am supposed to be trying things out, and if they don't work, that's not a mistake, that's a learning experience. And so that's taken me this whole time to discover and figure out and like, oh, okay, well, how I don't know how to do that yet because I still try not to make mistakes. So now it's experiment time. What happens if I try this different thing? So we're all in stages where we're kind of doing cool things, right?

unknown 15:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

I think it oh, sorry, I think it's getting stirred up because my computer's been acting up. And and so I'll get in this mindset of what if it stops working and what if it will never work again? Even the new one I'm ordering. What if that one and I think stop it.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

So it wants backup plans on backup plans on backup plans. Yeah, I see.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Because today I'm on my laptop. I don't like my laptop particularly.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

That's the Virgo tendency coming out.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Yep. Want things the way I want them.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Yeah, not bad. I think, you know, going back to what you said about the ego, Melissa, that we can never dispense of it. It has its it has a role as the human condition, right? But I think in what you're describing is being aware enough to know when you are when it's when it's filtering. Yes. When it's at play. That's that's the jam. That's all there it is. That's that ego which is built in fear, trying to keep me safe from my past mistakes.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Or danger, danger, Will Robinson, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Right, or how dare they.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

Right. So it's right, exactly. So it's only fear and love, right? The other thing I want to say too is that um I don't know. This is kind of, isn't Eckhart the same one who wrote The Power of Now?

SPEAKER_00 16:46

He did.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Yeah. Yeah. So that's like the next installment to this, right? Because we all kind of um have been taught with the Doom Scrolling and the conditioning, the Doom Scrolling is reflective of us out of resourcing, yeah. Which the answer is never there, right? It's always internally. And we have to get out of that energy of the problem to get the solution that's available when we inner resource. And you can only do that in your now moments. You create from your now moments. So this is very good. This is all good.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Yeah, and the deck the deck is decked against us because the advertising agencies and this culture knows exactly how to get your ego to participate, because the ego is hungry for want and desire, but it's not happy for long because it's looking to it's looking for identity with the thing you get, you know, whatever you collect, the ego wants it because it's it's part of your identity, then. And so, but that doesn't fulfill the identity, so then it has to go to the next thing. So the way that our culture teaches us more, more, more, more, more things, more money, more beauty, more everything equals fulfillment. And I think we've all found out ourselves and have lots of clients who understand that that's not true. Fulfillment comes from learning about your inner self and connecting to your inner self.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

And our ego also wants to know and it fills in the blanks, it seeks to fill in the blanks, it's not comfortable with the process.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

When life, 90% of it is the process, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

And if somebody doesn't know who they are on the inside, they're they become easier to influence externally, yeah, for sure. They don't know where to go. They don't know where to go. So it looks to me like when we look out into the collective, this is you know, the collective nervous system is overloaded with everybody having these experiences. We are starting to change it. Um, you know, but there's some easy, really simple ways to interrupt that ego pattern. One of them is what you said, Kelly, just become aware. I find myself laughing. Just be like, oh, there I go, and laugh a little bit. That's a good pattern interrupt for me. Um, another really good pattern pattern interrupt when I'm really feeling upset about something and I'm in and I'm in my ego self is the EFT tapping, is great to shift anything. Yeah. Um, but you know, observation of self, sitting in yourself in the present moment and watching the thoughts go by and detaching from it a little bit. So there's some the breath. The breath is a really easy way to help yourself observe. So it's just about that awareness and observation, if you if anybody wants to get started on being able to change that.

unknown 19:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

You know, because I'm thinking even that's an evolution to get to that place that you're describing. You know, isn't it though? Most people don't even feel like they have any control over their thoughts to begin with.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Right, but we know they do. They just have to be taught how.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Yeah, sometimes it's a wonder we any of us can carve out any happiness in life. Oh, that's a that's a deep dark thought, isn't it? I said that out loud.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

I was gonna say, wait a minute. I start most days with uh comedy on YouTube. It makes everything better. Watch my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Right?

unknown 20:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Stay away from the news.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Oh, I saw a video this morning. It was just a little compilation of babies laughing. Umly smiles. Adorable. Yeah, that was it's just lifted my spirits.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Just you telling us about it.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

See? We've all enjoyed baby laughter. Doesn't matter whose baby that is.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

That's right. That's right. That'll take you out of your ego for a little while. It will. Yeah, so you know, no judgment, no shade to anybody out there. We all are born in a body with an ego in it, and we've been trained how to be, and the people that are ready to shift out of that. Uh, you know, hypnosis is definitely a great tool to use for that. There's other tools to use uh to get yourself out of that thought loop. But when you're ready, it can be done. You are not your thoughts, you're something different than that. I think so too. Hopefully that'll give everybody a little something to think about.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

I think so. Baby videos. Yep. Look look up baby videos on on YouTube, on Facebook, wherever you are. Find those babies laughing. It was the best way. It's right up there now with finding my favorite comedians. If you just need a quick fix, just 90 seconds of baby laughter, it'll do it. Sounds great.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

You know what I'm I shamefully admit too? The thing that gets me laughing. People tripping and falling. It's not good. It's not good. It is funny.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Or the scare videos.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Or the scare videos. Those are. Have you ever seen those Kathy?

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Yes, those are scared.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

People getting scared. Oh man. Yeah.

unknown 22:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

Those are good ones. I recommend that. Better than the fall videos.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

All right. To check that out. Well, thanks everybody for participating and see you the next time. Thank you. Thanks, Melissa.